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Early Life

Changed a sentenced that said slavery was referred to as "the peculiar institution" as a euphemism from its apologists. It was actually a neutral term, and "peculiar" was used in the sense that it was only common in one particular region of the United States, namely the South.

--Michael Hollinger-- I could find no external corroboration for a 5 yr. old Andrew Carnegie killing Piedmont Morgan. Could someone cite a reference for that?

Stained Glass Illustration in this article

Wiki Commons lists the attached stained illustration as being in honor of Andrew Mellon. <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Stained_glass_windows_of_the_Washington_National_Cathedral#/media/File:Stain_Glass_Andrew_Mellon.JPG.> I doesn't look much like it belongs with either of them, from what I can see. I can't locate any other source, but thought you should know.

Not American

Andrew was born and raised in Scotland to Scottish parents and only move to America when he was 13-14, he’s not Scottish-American just Scottish. 77.197.126.86 (talk) 05:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@77.197.126.86 nope Matteow101 (talk) 14:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2023

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Change factually incorrect nationality in first lines of the entry.

"Andrew Carnegie was an American..."

To

"Andrew Carnegie was a Scottish...."

He was Scottish, born in Scotland to Scottish parents.

Sources: Wikipedia (stated place of birth)

Carnegie.org: https://www.carnegie.org/interactives/foundersstory/#!/ Jimbobajob (talk) 10:23, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Per MOS:NATIONALITY we use the nation a person was affiliated with when they were notable Cannolis (talk) 10:27, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is a most backwards and unconventional manner in which to describe a person's nationality. Carnegie himself identified as a Scotsman, since he was 'a Scotsman'. An individual's nationality does not change by dint of geographical location or indeed wheresoever they forged a career. To claim otherwise is thoroughly disingenuous.

Sadly, this must be some sort of modern American thinking, which is at odds with the rest of the English speaking world. Jimbobajob (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you object to the policy, you should raise the issue on the policy's talk page. For this specific case, you should also provide reliable sources that claim Carnegie identified himself as a Scotsman. Liu1126 (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change: American to Scottish 46.64.82.210 (talk) 15:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Per MOS:NATIONALITY, we should use the country he was resident in when he became notable. Liu1126 (talk) 16:12, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]